I think that evolution is a reasonable source of data that could give us the reason of how we came to be in the world that we are living in today. I believe in God myself too, not saying that I understand everything about this world myself, but couldn't evolution be the answer to how and not the answer to why.
I grew up learning and dealing with quite a bit about geology from rocks and minerals, along with fossils and other past time creatures that lived on the planet. My father was a geologist, so I was able to trip over boxes, and boxes of different samples of many of earths various elements and various fossils. The past can reveal a lot about where everything came from, along with good knowledge that evolution could be a viable explanation for things. As most people that understand the study of earth, there is one good example to show how we can judge what we are able to study in the earths time, the deeper we dig, the further into the past we can see or go.
As scientists have been doing so for years, we have been able to obtain information from samples of the earth that can give us a idea of where we could have been built up from.
This is another example web-sight where another shared similar examples to what I can agree on some of the ideas of evolution.
I have always been fascinated with paleontology and geography. It has always broadened by perspective on the view of the world whenever I am driving on the highway and happen to pass a rock formation or hill or mountain that has been blasted or dug into to make way for a highway. Just looking at the different layers in the ground has always fascinated me on how they were possibly formed or created to settle in that way and how long they have been like that until it has been revealed by digging it up for my passing eyes on the highway to see.
One very good thing that I have learned over the years is that no-one really knows everything except for god. That is also another thing that drives me into learning about many things. So I can have the experiences and known knowledge on such things to understand a possibility on where we might have come from. Not to an absolute answer of a yes or no, but a closer understanding by placing a few more pieces of the life puzzle together for our understanding.
I too have what I would like to say a respectable religious background in the LDS church. I also see that god does things for a reason beyond our understanding. But that is something that I do believe that he has left us these clues for us to broaden our perspective in the drive for understanding where we live and what has happened in our past. I do believe all that the Bible and Book of Mormon has taught us and I do also like to understand much more about all points of view. It helps me come up with a better conclusion for myself for whatever answer I might be looking for, wether I know, or know not what that answer is.
Roy Forrest HUM101
(William Brown group partner)
Why I don’t believe in evolution.
It stems from mostly personal experience but I do have ways of portraying it logically.
I have to look at it in a way, that if god does exist then there has to be a reason that we are here. Then I see that I have to find a propose to be here.
I have to look at what is written about the creation of earth from the beginning can a being create plants and animals and humans?
In our day and age we can play with and change some DNA we have even in the most crudest of ways caused mutations through radiation and chemicals. We may not understand it yet but we can. We also have a understanding of molecules and how they work theoretically also enough to know how to break them apart in some fashion. When the bible says that god created man from the dust of the earth what could that be? Molecules? Are they not really the dust of the earth?
What are we as humans looking to do? Are we not trying to create things, make things better, live longer, and understand more make our bodies impervious to sickness? If aloud to we could probably make most of those things happen but we are bound by morals that stop us from doing those things. Because right now our knowledge is limited to a point.
Lets now look at what some of the things we do know lets take for instance DNA that is past from parents to children we can see that dna can even have a say in how a child thinks and acts take for instance a child born to two parents that are fluent musicians that child can have a disposition to want to learn music and may even find it easier to learn than let’s say a child that is born to parents that are both doctors. Through our understanding we know this to be true in some circumstances.
Now that I have explained a little of how I think I will go back to the beginning. If anyone believes that there is a god. There must be some reason to us being here. Now I said a lot of how I believe is based off personal experience. When I first had children I wanted for them to understand what I understood right away I wanted them to know through my experience what I have learned to keep them from making the same mistakes I made so that they would be able to have the time of their lives to make themselves even better than what I had. Inherently I feel that most people that have children feel the same. We know what works and what doesn’t work and we want to have that pasted on so that they can learn more.
This is what I feel is the main reason that we are here. God put us here to learn to be more like him a being that is perfect and wants his children to be just like him and this is just kindergarten. The human body does have the ability to become perfect. It’s there, we don’t understand it, but we know it’s there.
Bodies change faster than we want to believe. Evolution says we have become what we are now over billions of years I think that if we combine all that we know now we can see that a body can change in just one generation like what we have been looking at in our class i.e. the brain and how it has become rewired in our children to understand electronics. If you have ever watched supersize me we can see two things but only one is portrayed in the movie. What was portrayed in the movie was what we put into our bodes can directly affect our health. But one thing was not addressed was that his body even though at first started to kick back what was taken into it eventually it started to level off he says and talks about that he felt like he was going to possibly die. So he changes the parameters a little to trying to eat the more healthier meals that they provided. We know that our bodies can change to acclimate for the situation. If you watch survivor the tv show the people that were on the show to the end, you can see that in small ways their bodies also changed. Those were instances that were not meant for scientific studies had they had that in mind and people agreeing to step out of the moral boundaries of they could die if we do that then we could have seen even more of how the body works. Now let’s take bulimic’s and how they train their bodies to respond a certain way it may be unhealthy but that is what they do. They go without eating for days than they eat a little and the body does what with that food stores most of it as fat then the person feels fat then change back to not eating the it’s the same process all over. Let’s take someone that is a marathon runner they know that at a certain part of the race there bodies have to go from burning carbohydrates to burning fats it’s the hardest part of the race but they have trained their bodies to do just that and it does it in a matter of minutes. It does take time to train their bodies but it happens.
I think I have shown just a handful of ways that lead me to believe that we are not as old as we think.
Now what if let’s say we are working toward perfecting our bodies what if at some point we eventually do just that like, we can communicate telepathically, we heal instantly and we don’t age. All things that we talk about and are looked at and its also pushed at us in many forms of media. What if that happens? could we not then say lets drop a man and a woman on a planet that we have made habitable and we know through experience what can happen.
I am only telling you just a portion of what I think. I do believe that this world was created and we were put on this earth for a propose. And I do feel that we have a goal of to be like our parent God. Do I understand everything now? I don’t but I think that it is not meant for me to understand everything. Just like I can’t tell my son that the stove is hot and for him to understand what hot is and how heat is used for making food and how our bodies have used that food and how that makes our bodies pass on DNA and so on and so forth. He first has to touch that stove and get burned to understand heat. It is the same with god he gives us time to grow and learn but conflict and separation from each other through distance and cultures stop our growth even faster. If we combine our knowledge instead of I’m right your wrong we can see that its only through conflict that we stop our growth just like how when we put things into it that is foreign it sometimes fights it because it’s not how we have trained it but when we continue to do it our bodies acclimate to it and change sometimes good sometimes bad. I think that when the bible says that the natural man is an enemy to god that it means just that, when we fight it stops our growth to a crawl but then after we have come to a end of the fighting that we have changed sometimes for the good and sometimes for the bad.
I would say that to end this I feel that this scripture I have says it all.
All thing denote that there is a god yea even the earth and all thing that are upon the face of it, yea, and also all the planets which move in their regular form do witness that there is a supreme creator.
Ask yourself this, if I, Bill, am wrong what have I done with my life? If I believe that there is a god and follow what I feel is his teachings and do my best in growing and helping my children grow for the better. And if I find that I am right. I think just as when I go and see my father he would welcome me into his arms and I would be happy. But if there wasn’t a god then what have I done with my life but make the world a better place and can still be happy. But the opposite cannot say the same. If I lived a life of eat drink and be marry for tomorrow we shall die. When it happens I guess I will be happy but if I was wrong and there is a God it will be at that point that you might understand what god means when he says “there is a place called hell prepared for you It’s that pit of everlasting burning a hell” or to make it simple, to know for eternity that if you had just lived a life with god in it. That is a hell in itself to have regrets for eternity. I think I will play the game that is a win win not a side that has a win lose.
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